I have struggled with Lemongrass EO in cold process soap - often batches are spotty (DOS). I have tried soaping at lower temps. I have changed formulation -- and still having issues. Is there a particular fixed oil that could be interacting with the Lemongrass? Other recommendations you could offer (besides discontinuing the soap)? Thanks in advance -- T.T.
Sorry for the delay in responding, I was out of the country for the last two weeks. I have not experienced the problem you describe with Lemongrass. A couple things to consider:
1). Is the Lemongrass batch fresh or is it aged? With aging can come oxidation and the oil does not perform well in soap once that has happened.
2). Did you get a Certificate of Analysis with the Lemongrass? Lemongrass is frequently adulterated with Citral and you can also get strange results from a high level of that.
3). Never use Lemongrass above a 5% level in your recipe.
4). A good fixative is Atlas Cedarwood and/or Balsam Pine, but of course, it will impact the true lemongrass fragrance.
As I have said I have never had an issue with Lemongrass bars having spots myself, so all that really leaves is the recipe. If you don't mind sharing your ingredients, I can take a look at that.
Hi there! Not sure if this question should go to you or not - but here goes! We are looking into making our own teas, extracts, etc from our herb garden. I have seen several cold process soap recipes that add extracts but I'm having trouble figuring out if these are alcohol based or glycerin based and which step they should be added in (although so far I've read that light trace is the time). Can you help? I can make extracts using either medium I just don't want to end up destroying a test batch or blowing up my lye because I added the wrong type at the wrong time!
Any help would be appreciated,
Michelle -- D.P.
When I make soaps with teas and plant extracts, I add them into the lye base and do not use alcohol (we avoid it whenever we can). For example, instead of plain water in with lye I will use the tea as the entire water replacement. But I steep the tea to be quite strong if I am using it in soap.
Extracts are tricky and it depends what it is how it is made. We typically do either a water or an oil infusion, simpler to work with in the soap we have found. Too much glycerin will give you rivers. I don't know if you are using goat milk or not and if so, that is where you have to watch our using too much glycerin.
The infused oil will replace all or just a portion of your oils in the recipe. Therapuetic benefit can be obtained with a lessor amount than trying to get the scent from an infusion alone.
Does this help?
I have recently started making cold process soap. Most of the research I've done on essential oils in soap state the use is 1 ounce per pound of soap, or, some calculators state the use is 3% of the total oils in the soap. My test batch recipe is 32 ounces of oil. 3% is about an ounce of EO. By the time my soap cures, there is very little scent. I use primarily USDA certified organic EOs; if not organic, then therapeutic grade. Can I use more EO so the scent will be stronger?
Mary -- M.A.
Thanks for the question. Because it is a wash-off product, essential oil safety guidelines will allow up to 5%-7% depending on which oil is used. There are some where more caution and dilution is necessary.
If you are using any of the citruses however, they have much lighter molecules and are more aromatic. Aromatic meaning high evaporation rather than more scent. You will lose the scent much faster in any citrus oil. It is a fact that we don't like, but have to respect.
Your recipe will also have an effect. If you are using any butters that are raw and still have a scent of their own (raw cocoa butter), it can mask the EO scent to some degree.
Of course, do a test to see if your EO reacts with alkali, because if it does the batch can accelerate significantly, which can challenge you even if the scent is great.
Some essential oils are simply not meant for soap, either because of cost or because of potential for irritation.
Let me know if you have any other questions!
As a general rule how long will an essential scent last in a cold process soap? Thank you! -- V.C.
I apologize for the delay. HSCG had trouble with my experts portal and I could not get into answer until now. Please forgive the delay.
How long an EO will last in cold process is dependent upon the oil used primarily. Citrus oils will lose their scent the fastest, no matter the type. Lemon, Lime, Tangerine, Bergamot....they all will fade usually within 2 - 3 months.
The less volatile the oil, the longer the scent will stay and there are some that are good for a year or more. Some that will stay are Lavender, Spearmint, Eucalyptus, Clove, Citronella, Patchouli, Cedarwood, Frankincense. But it takes at least 5% essential oil in the recipe. If you use 1 - 2% you will not have a lasting scent.
Of course the recipe you use will also affect the EO longevity. If you use heavy butters, like cocoa butter, it can mask EO to a certain degree, reducing the scent. All EO's will have a "slight" scent alteration because of the alkali reaction. Some EO's actually saponify in soap and others do not.
So it is a complex answer with many variables. But overall, with the exception of citrus, you should still be able to detect a scent at 9 months to a year in an EO soap that is made correctly.
Hope this helps!
Honey Sweetie Acres
Regina is available to answer questions submitted by HSCG members concerning Essential Oils.
Use the form below to submit your question.
Sorry! Submission of questions to our expert is only available to current
HSCG Members. If you are a member, please log in and then submit your question.
The Handcrafted Soap and Cosmetic Guild, Inc.
publishes this website for our members, friends and other interested visitors for
information purposes only. The contents of the site do not constitute legal advice
and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the association or any of its staff
or clients. The site provides general information, which may or may not be correct,
complete or current at the time of reading. The content is not intended to be used
as a substitute for specific legal advice or opinions. No recipients of content
from this site should act or refrain from acting on the basis of content of the
site without seeking appropriate legal advice or other professional counseling.
The Handcrafted Soap & Cosmetic Guild, Inc. expressly disclaims all liability
relating to actions taken or not taken based on any or all contents of the site.
Visit Our Sponsors: